Offline story forms


Nele explains how the idea for the audiowalk ‘So You Still Sort of Have the Same Number’ was developed. Caspar describes how he experienced the audiowalk.

The goal of journalistic theatre

Marije and Anoek meet for the first time and discuss the similarities and differences between their work. They discuss collaboration across borders and journalistic theatre. Anoek explains that she tries to show her audience how complex systems work using theatre.

Objectivity in journalistic theatre

Anoek also talks about why she tries to create connection with her subject, rather than remain objective and distant.

How to create journalistic theatre

Anoek explains the research she does when she creates a journalistic theatre piece, such as De Zaak Shell (The Case Shell). Marije also wonders where she gets her ideas from.

Emotion and empathy in journalistic theatre

Anoek explains the role of empathy and emotion in her work. She also tells about the strengths of theatre for journalistic stories. Anoek explains why she decided to go back to print magazines for the same reasons.

International collaboration

Marije tells Anoek about Are We Europe, a media-outlet that she founded that aims to collaborate across borders, nationalities and generations, and the impact she hopes to have.

Wrap up and new insights

Anoek & Marije discuss their insights after having talked for over an hour.

How to make money with innovative journalism

Marije and Anoek discuss how they make their journalistic ideas financially possible. How do they make sure they stay independent?

Impact on society

Marije and Anoek discuss their future plans and the impact they hope to have on society.